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Author
17 Jun 2009 2:23 PM
tulip
we used logshipping between primary servers and secondary server, the
distance is more than 1000 miles, the copy job need to copy a 60G files each
week, is there anyway to fast the process? thanks

Author
17 Jun 2009 2:29 PM
Uri Dimant
Hi
Can you explain how did you set up Log Shipping?

> week, is there anyway to fast the process? thanks

FTP? I have not tested ,sorry



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"tulip" <tu***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> we used logshipping between primary servers and secondary server, the
> distance is more than 1000 miles, the copy job need to copy a 60G files
> each
> week, is there anyway to fast the process? thanks
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Author
17 Jun 2009 4:14 PM
tulip
Set up the copy job and load job on the secondary server.

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"Uri Dimant" wrote:

> Hi
> Can you explain how did you set up Log Shipping?
>
> > week, is there anyway to fast the process? thanks
>
> FTP? I have not tested ,sorry
>
>
>
> "tulip" <tu***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:36E0F184-C85F-457A-86AC-436988C2391B@microsoft.com...
> > we used logshipping between primary servers and secondary server, the
> > distance is more than 1000 miles, the copy job need to copy a 60G files
> > each
> > week, is there anyway to fast the process? thanks
>
>
>
Author
18 Jun 2009 5:23 AM
Uri Dimant
tulip
You mean two jobs (FULL backup and LOG backups)?


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"tulip" <tu***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Set up the copy job and load job on the secondary server.
>
> "Uri Dimant" wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> Can you explain how did you set up Log Shipping?
>>
>> > week, is there anyway to fast the process? thanks
>>
>> FTP? I have not tested ,sorry
>>
>>
>>
>> "tulip" <tu***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:36E0F184-C85F-457A-86AC-436988C2391B@microsoft.com...
>> > we used logshipping between primary servers and secondary server, the
>> > distance is more than 1000 miles, the copy job need to copy a 60G files
>> > each
>> > week, is there anyway to fast the process? thanks
>>
>>
>>
Author
17 Jun 2009 2:35 PM
Tom Moreau
Consider using Red Gate's SQL Backup.  They have log shipping built in and
they compress the backup files on the fly:

http://www.red-gate.com/products/sql_backup/index_2.htm

--
   Tom

----------------------------------------------------
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON   Canada
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau


"tulip" <tu***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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we used logshipping between primary servers and secondary server, the
distance is more than 1000 miles, the copy job need to copy a 60G files each
week, is there anyway to fast the process? thanks
Author
17 Jun 2009 3:44 PM
Linchi Shea
Distance is irrelavant. You need to find out the throughput of your link
(i.e. how many MBs can it push through per second?), and determine if you
have enough time for copying 60GB.

Linchi

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"tulip" wrote:

> we used logshipping between primary servers and secondary server, the
> distance is more than 1000 miles, the copy job need to copy a 60G files each
> week, is there anyway to fast the process? thanks
Author
17 Jun 2009 4:13 PM
tulip
it is 300M link. currently took us 30+hours to copy over. Each hour push
about 2G. I think the copy mechnism used by sql job is not efficient?

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"Linchi Shea" wrote:

> Distance is irrelavant. You need to find out the throughput of your link
> (i.e. how many MBs can it push through per second?), and determine if you
> have enough time for copying 60GB.
>
> Linchi
>
> "tulip" wrote:
>
> > we used logshipping between primary servers and secondary server, the
> > distance is more than 1000 miles, the copy job need to copy a 60G files each
> > week, is there anyway to fast the process? thanks
Author
17 Jun 2009 4:16 PM
Tom Moreau
Have you looked at Red Gate's SQL Backup?  We're getting up to 80%
compression.

--
   Tom

----------------------------------------------------
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON   Canada
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau


"tulip" <tu***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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it is 300M link. currently took us 30+hours to copy over. Each hour push
about 2G. I think the copy mechnism used by sql job is not efficient?

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"Linchi Shea" wrote:

> Distance is irrelavant. You need to find out the throughput of your link
> (i.e. how many MBs can it push through per second?), and determine if you
> have enough time for copying 60GB.
>
> Linchi
>
> "tulip" wrote:
>
> > we used logshipping between primary servers and secondary server, the
> > distance is more than 1000 miles, the copy job need to copy a 60G files
> > each
> > week, is there anyway to fast the process? thanks
Author
17 Jun 2009 4:23 PM
tulip
compression on t-log?

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"Tom Moreau" wrote:

> Have you looked at Red Gate's SQL Backup?  We're getting up to 80%
> compression.
>
> --
>    Tom
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON   Canada
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>
>
> "tulip" <tu***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:86E9D250-95AB-4D5B-BB18-8F5946FC8A50@microsoft.com...
> it is 300M link. currently took us 30+hours to copy over. Each hour push
> about 2G. I think the copy mechnism used by sql job is not efficient?
>
> "Linchi Shea" wrote:
>
> > Distance is irrelavant. You need to find out the throughput of your link
> > (i.e. how many MBs can it push through per second?), and determine if you
> > have enough time for copying 60GB.
> >
> > Linchi
> >
> > "tulip" wrote:
> >
> > > we used logshipping between primary servers and secondary server, the
> > > distance is more than 1000 miles, the copy job need to copy a 60G files
> > > each
> > > week, is there anyway to fast the process? thanks
>
>
Author
17 Jun 2009 4:55 PM
Tom Moreau
Compression on all backups.  When you log ship, you backup the transaction
log, copy it to the backup server and then restore it.  By compressing the
log, you consume less disk space, but you also have less to shove through
the network.

--
   Tom

----------------------------------------------------
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON   Canada
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau


"tulip" <tu***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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compression on t-log?

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"Tom Moreau" wrote:

> Have you looked at Red Gate's SQL Backup?  We're getting up to 80%
> compression.
>
> --
>    Tom
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON   Canada
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>
>
> "tulip" <tu***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:86E9D250-95AB-4D5B-BB18-8F5946FC8A50@microsoft.com...
> it is 300M link. currently took us 30+hours to copy over. Each hour push
> about 2G. I think the copy mechnism used by sql job is not efficient?
>
> "Linchi Shea" wrote:
>
> > Distance is irrelavant. You need to find out the throughput of your link
> > (i.e. how many MBs can it push through per second?), and determine if
> > you
> > have enough time for copying 60GB.
> >
> > Linchi
> >
> > "tulip" wrote:
> >
> > > we used logshipping between primary servers and secondary server, the
> > > distance is more than 1000 miles, the copy job need to copy a 60G
> > > files
> > > each
> > > week, is there anyway to fast the process? thanks
>
>
Author
22 Jun 2009 9:22 PM
tulip
Hi Tom,

i set up the log shipping on red gate, but didn't stop the one on the
original server (still back up t-log using sql server job agent) for a test.
So i have same database log ship to different db servers, one use sql server
, one use sql backup. Backup and restore complete successfully, and the
backup and copy jobs all created using sql backup. But the restore t-log job
failed with sql backup tool, with error


6/22/2009 3:55:00 PM: Warning 170: Log files are not in sequence:
'LOG_xxx_20090622153005.sqb' and 'LOG_xxx_20090622154504.sqb'
6/22/2009 3:55:00 PM: Restoring xxx (transaction logs) from:
6/22/2009 3:55:00 PM:   \\xxx\LOG_xxx_20090622153005.sqb

6/22/2009 3:55:00 PM: RESTORE LOG [xxx]  FROM VIRTUAL_DEVICE =
'SQLBACKUP_C6FB8633-3251-457E-AD73-B0B60B907805' WITH BUFFERCOUNT = 6,
BLOCKSIZE = 65536, MAXTRANSFERSIZE = 1048576 , NORECOVERY

6/22/2009 3:55:00 PM: SQL Server error

SQL error 3013: SQL error 3013: RESTORE LOG is terminating abnormally.
SQL error 4305: SQL error 4305: The log in this backup set begins at LSN
829688000000280700001, which is too late to apply to the database. An earlier
log backup that includes LSN 829683000002276400001 can be restored.

the network share i use in the set up is on the dest server where i want the
t-log shipped to. The backup started on 1:50pm,  the first t-log backup is
3:00pm.

could you share with me your experience?

many thanks

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"Tom Moreau" wrote:

> Compression on all backups.  When you log ship, you backup the transaction
> log, copy it to the backup server and then restore it.  By compressing the
> log, you consume less disk space, but you also have less to shove through
> the network.
>
> --
>    Tom
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON   Canada
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>
>
> "tulip" <tu***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F42CDDAC-89B3-4A4B-83A5-595AE074EEF3@microsoft.com...
> compression on t-log?
>
> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
>
> > Have you looked at Red Gate's SQL Backup?  We're getting up to 80%
> > compression.
> >
> > --
> >    Tom
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
> > SQL Server MVP
> > Toronto, ON   Canada
> > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
> >
> >
> > "tulip" <tu***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:86E9D250-95AB-4D5B-BB18-8F5946FC8A50@microsoft.com...
> > it is 300M link. currently took us 30+hours to copy over. Each hour push
> > about 2G. I think the copy mechnism used by sql job is not efficient?
> >
> > "Linchi Shea" wrote:
> >
> > > Distance is irrelavant. You need to find out the throughput of your link
> > > (i.e. how many MBs can it push through per second?), and determine if
> > > you
> > > have enough time for copying 60GB.
> > >
> > > Linchi
> > >
> > > "tulip" wrote:
> > >
> > > > we used logshipping between primary servers and secondary server, the
> > > > distance is more than 1000 miles, the copy job need to copy a 60G
> > > > files
> > > > each
> > > > week, is there anyway to fast the process? thanks
> >
> >
>
>
Author
24 Jun 2009 12:08 AM
Tom Moreau
No surprise there.  All transaction log backups must be restored in the
exact same order in which they were backed up - regardless of whether you
used a native backup or a SQL Server backup.  The easiest thing to do here
is pick which one you want to use and use it exclusively.

--
   Tom

----------------------------------------------------
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON   Canada
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau


"tulip" <tu***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E3A76C30-6833-4300-9432-B1A8DCC8A04D@microsoft.com...
Hi Tom,

i set up the log shipping on red gate, but didn't stop the one on the
original server (still back up t-log using sql server job agent) for a test.
So i have same database log ship to different db servers, one use sql server
, one use sql backup. Backup and restore complete successfully, and the
backup and copy jobs all created using sql backup. But the restore t-log job
failed with sql backup tool, with error


6/22/2009 3:55:00 PM: Warning 170: Log files are not in sequence:
'LOG_xxx_20090622153005.sqb' and 'LOG_xxx_20090622154504.sqb'
6/22/2009 3:55:00 PM: Restoring xxx (transaction logs) from:
6/22/2009 3:55:00 PM:   \\xxx\LOG_xxx_20090622153005.sqb

6/22/2009 3:55:00 PM: RESTORE LOG [xxx]  FROM VIRTUAL_DEVICE =
'SQLBACKUP_C6FB8633-3251-457E-AD73-B0B60B907805' WITH BUFFERCOUNT = 6,
BLOCKSIZE = 65536, MAXTRANSFERSIZE = 1048576 , NORECOVERY

6/22/2009 3:55:00 PM: SQL Server error

SQL error 3013: SQL error 3013: RESTORE LOG is terminating abnormally.
SQL error 4305: SQL error 4305: The log in this backup set begins at LSN
829688000000280700001, which is too late to apply to the database. An
earlier
log backup that includes LSN 829683000002276400001 can be restored.

the network share i use in the set up is on the dest server where i want the
t-log shipped to. The backup started on 1:50pm,  the first t-log backup is
3:00pm.

could you share with me your experience?

many thanks

Show quoteHide quote
"Tom Moreau" wrote:

> Compression on all backups.  When you log ship, you backup the transaction
> log, copy it to the backup server and then restore it.  By compressing the
> log, you consume less disk space, but you also have less to shove through
> the network.
>
> --
>    Tom
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON   Canada
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>
>
> "tulip" <tu***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F42CDDAC-89B3-4A4B-83A5-595AE074EEF3@microsoft.com...
> compression on t-log?
>
> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
>
> > Have you looked at Red Gate's SQL Backup?  We're getting up to 80%
> > compression.
> >
> > --
> >    Tom
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
> > SQL Server MVP
> > Toronto, ON   Canada
> > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
> >
> >
> > "tulip" <tu***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:86E9D250-95AB-4D5B-BB18-8F5946FC8A50@microsoft.com...
> > it is 300M link. currently took us 30+hours to copy over. Each hour push
> > about 2G. I think the copy mechnism used by sql job is not efficient?
> >
> > "Linchi Shea" wrote:
> >
> > > Distance is irrelavant. You need to find out the throughput of your
> > > link
> > > (i.e. how many MBs can it push through per second?), and determine if
> > > you
> > > have enough time for copying 60GB.
> > >
> > > Linchi
> > >
> > > "tulip" wrote:
> > >
> > > > we used logshipping between primary servers and secondary server,
> > > > the
> > > > distance is more than 1000 miles, the copy job need to copy a 60G
> > > > files
> > > > each
> > > > week, is there anyway to fast the process? thanks
> >
> >
>
>

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