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Rolling Back from build 3159 to build 3152

Author
17 Apr 2007 2:13 PM
Chris Wood
Hi,

We were on build 3152 after hotfix 933097. Build 3159 hotfix 934459 was
applied by accident. 933097 says it can be uninstalled by using Add/Remove
programs and hotfix 934459 shows up in the list in Add/Remove programs. So
can we rollback 934459 using Add/Remove programs?

Thanks

Chris

Author
17 Apr 2007 4:44 PM
John Bell
Hi Chris

"Chris Wood" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We were on build 3152 after hotfix 933097. Build 3159 hotfix 934459 was
> applied by accident. 933097 says it can be uninstalled by using Add/Remove
> programs and hotfix 934459 shows up in the list in Add/Remove programs. So
> can we rollback 934459 using Add/Remove programs?
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
>
Although I haven't tried it you should be able to role back the files
changed by this, although I am not sure why you should want to, as there
would be risks to be taken into consideration. Test it on a non-production
server first.

John
Author
17 Apr 2007 4:49 PM
Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP]
If it appears in add/remove programs, then the only reason it would break is
if there is a bug.  Which, I guess, given the history of SP2, is why I agree
with John's suggestion to try it in a test environment first.  Not that it
couldn't still break in production after passing in test, but hey...

I do agree with John though, why do you *need* to roll back to 3152?  Did
you find behavior in 3159 that you need to revert?  FWIW, if I accidentally
patched a server with the highest build available, then that's where I would
do my testing and bring all environments up to that build ASAP.  Perhaps
your situation is different.

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"Chris Wood" <anonym***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ez%23uSqPgHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> We were on build 3152 after hotfix 933097. Build 3159 hotfix 934459 was
> applied by accident. 933097 says it can be uninstalled by using Add/Remove
> programs and hotfix 934459 shows up in the list in Add/Remove programs. So
> can we rollback 934459 using Add/Remove programs?
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
>
Author
17 Apr 2007 5:07 PM
Chris Wood
Guys,

This is a Development server I am talking about. From what I see in
Add/Remove programs I believe it would rollback to SP2 either at 3042 or
3050 build (We had applied SP2 (good 3042) and then applied 3050 and then
applied 3152 as this was our path on our test server). If I look in
Add/Remove programs it shows entries for 3159 and no entries for 3152 on
this server. If I look on another server with 3152 it shows entries for 3152
in Add/Remove programs.

Why go back? We had decided on build 3152 and discounted 3159 due to the
various comments about these hotfixes. We had Development at 3152 and just
upgraded Acceptance to 3152. With 3159 on Development we would need to
upgrade Acceptance to 3159 now with more testing to keep our levels in sync.

It is nice to see SQL2005 fixes show up in Microsoft Update but this can
lead to patches being applied to a server by non DBA staff.

Thanks

Chris

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"Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP]" <ten.xoc@dnartreb.noraa> wrote in message
news:%23sXUTBRgHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> If it appears in add/remove programs, then the only reason it would break
> is if there is a bug.  Which, I guess, given the history of SP2, is why I
> agree with John's suggestion to try it in a test environment first.  Not
> that it couldn't still break in production after passing in test, but
> hey...
>
> I do agree with John though, why do you *need* to roll back to 3152?  Did
> you find behavior in 3159 that you need to revert?  FWIW, if I
> accidentally patched a server with the highest build available, then
> that's where I would do my testing and bring all environments up to that
> build ASAP.  Perhaps your situation is different.
>
> --
> Aaron Bertrand
> SQL Server MVP
> http://www.sqlblog.com/
> http://www.aspfaq.com/5006
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Chris Wood" <anonym***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ez%23uSqPgHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> We were on build 3152 after hotfix 933097. Build 3159 hotfix 934459 was
>> applied by accident. 933097 says it can be uninstalled by using
>> Add/Remove programs and hotfix 934459 shows up in the list in Add/Remove
>> programs. So can we rollback 934459 using Add/Remove programs?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Chris
>>
>
>
Author
17 Apr 2007 5:46 PM
Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP]
> It is nice to see SQL2005 fixes show up in Microsoft Update but this can
> lead to patches being applied to a server by non DBA staff.

Agreed.  I found it particularly funny that some of these updates were
deemed critical and, on a lot of systems, applied without consent.

A
Author
18 Apr 2007 2:29 PM
Chris Wood
Aaron,

Not sure if you used the SQL2005 BPA CTP but it flagged one of our servers
for running a build (2047 - SP1) that was lower than build 2052 that fixed a
memory leak in the CLR. I don't remember seeing anything in MU about this
being a problem or in any other notification. SQL2005 seems a lot more
loosy-goosey than SQL2000 ever did.

Chris

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"Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP]" <ten.xoc@dnartreb.noraa> wrote in message
news:uC1sThRgHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> It is nice to see SQL2005 fixes show up in Microsoft Update but this can
>> lead to patches being applied to a server by non DBA staff.
>
> Agreed.  I found it particularly funny that some of these updates were
> deemed critical and, on a lot of systems, applied without consent.
>
> A
>
Author
17 Apr 2007 6:12 PM
John Bell
Hi Chris

Show quote
"Chris Wood" wrote:

> Guys,
>
> This is a Development server I am talking about. From what I see in
> Add/Remove programs I believe it would rollback to SP2 either at 3042 or
> 3050 build (We had applied SP2 (good 3042) and then applied 3050 and then
> applied 3152 as this was our path on our test server). If I look in
> Add/Remove programs it shows entries for 3159 and no entries for 3152 on
> this server. If I look on another server with 3152 it shows entries for 3152
> in Add/Remove programs.
>
> Why go back? We had decided on build 3152 and discounted 3159 due to the
> various comments about these hotfixes. We had Development at 3152 and just
> upgraded Acceptance to 3152. With 3159 on Development we would need to
> upgrade Acceptance to 3159 now with more testing to keep our levels in sync.
>
> It is nice to see SQL2005 fixes show up in Microsoft Update but this can
> lead to patches being applied to a server by non DBA staff.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris

Have you considered moving to a new instance or different server with the
patch level you wanted? You could then remove the original instance if
necessary.

John

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> "Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP]" <ten.xoc@dnartreb.noraa> wrote in message
> news:%23sXUTBRgHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > If it appears in add/remove programs, then the only reason it would break
> > is if there is a bug.  Which, I guess, given the history of SP2, is why I
> > agree with John's suggestion to try it in a test environment first.  Not
> > that it couldn't still break in production after passing in test, but
> > hey...
> >
> > I do agree with John though, why do you *need* to roll back to 3152?  Did
> > you find behavior in 3159 that you need to revert?  FWIW, if I
> > accidentally patched a server with the highest build available, then
> > that's where I would do my testing and bring all environments up to that
> > build ASAP.  Perhaps your situation is different.
> >
> > --
> > Aaron Bertrand
> > SQL Server MVP
> > http://www.sqlblog.com/
> > http://www.aspfaq.com/5006
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Chris Wood" <anonym***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:ez%23uSqPgHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We were on build 3152 after hotfix 933097. Build 3159 hotfix 934459 was
> >> applied by accident. 933097 says it can be uninstalled by using
> >> Add/Remove programs and hotfix 934459 shows up in the list in Add/Remove
> >> programs. So can we rollback 934459 using Add/Remove programs?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
Author
18 Apr 2007 2:19 PM
Chris Wood
We have decided to move to 3159 as we could not determine what we would have
rolled back to and precious time was wasting. We have applications that need
SP2 to run the way they did under SQL2000.

Thanks

Chris

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"John Bell" <jbellnewspo***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:424ACA8C-313A-4C0E-87F1-9432BAD38C89@microsoft.com...
> Hi Chris
>
> "Chris Wood" wrote:
>
>> Guys,
>>
>> This is a Development server I am talking about. From what I see in
>> Add/Remove programs I believe it would rollback to SP2 either at 3042 or
>> 3050 build (We had applied SP2 (good 3042) and then applied 3050 and then
>> applied 3152 as this was our path on our test server). If I look in
>> Add/Remove programs it shows entries for 3159 and no entries for 3152 on
>> this server. If I look on another server with 3152 it shows entries for
>> 3152
>> in Add/Remove programs.
>>
>> Why go back? We had decided on build 3152 and discounted 3159 due to the
>> various comments about these hotfixes. We had Development at 3152 and
>> just
>> upgraded Acceptance to 3152. With 3159 on Development we would need to
>> upgrade Acceptance to 3159 now with more testing to keep our levels in
>> sync.
>>
>> It is nice to see SQL2005 fixes show up in Microsoft Update but this can
>> lead to patches being applied to a server by non DBA staff.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Chris
>
> Have you considered moving to a new instance or different server with the
> patch level you wanted? You could then remove the original instance if
> necessary.
>
> John
>
>> "Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP]" <ten.xoc@dnartreb.noraa> wrote in
>> message
>> news:%23sXUTBRgHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > If it appears in add/remove programs, then the only reason it would
>> > break
>> > is if there is a bug.  Which, I guess, given the history of SP2, is why
>> > I
>> > agree with John's suggestion to try it in a test environment first.
>> > Not
>> > that it couldn't still break in production after passing in test, but
>> > hey...
>> >
>> > I do agree with John though, why do you *need* to roll back to 3152?
>> > Did
>> > you find behavior in 3159 that you need to revert?  FWIW, if I
>> > accidentally patched a server with the highest build available, then
>> > that's where I would do my testing and bring all environments up to
>> > that
>> > build ASAP.  Perhaps your situation is different.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Aaron Bertrand
>> > SQL Server MVP
>> > http://www.sqlblog.com/
>> > http://www.aspfaq.com/5006
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Chris Wood" <anonym***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:ez%23uSqPgHHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> We were on build 3152 after hotfix 933097. Build 3159 hotfix 934459
>> >> was
>> >> applied by accident. 933097 says it can be uninstalled by using
>> >> Add/Remove programs and hotfix 934459 shows up in the list in
>> >> Add/Remove
>> >> programs. So can we rollback 934459 using Add/Remove programs?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Chris
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>

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